Charitable thoughts.

Yesterday afternoon I turned off the computer and put away the phone, and spent time doing housework with Smallest, while the children played away from their screens in their bedroom.

It was a peaceful afternoon. I needed the downtime – sometimes it can all get a bit too much in the virtual world, and I have to try to remember the point of being at home. Not that I think that the point is housework, but you know what I mean.

While I was offline, a little bubble burst as someone spotted a Nestle badge on the tots100 site. Various ppl were hugely less than impressed, and conversations quickly took place about withdrawing from the tots as ppl didn’t want to be associated with Nestle.

Two points here. I was surprised that there are still ppl around who haven’t heard of the Nestle boycott, and don’t know the reasons behind it. The long story short – Nestle aggressively market baby milk to mothers in the third world who don’t have safe access to clean water. They don’t comply with advertising standards or WHO guidelines.

The second point – this wasn’t a paid advert. This was a badge put on after Nestle made a donation to charity to support two mummy bloggers running the London Marathon.

Now, I tend to start with the view that this is just another way for Nestle to attempt to whitewash their reputation, a bit like the FairTrade kitkat labelling, when only 1% of their cocoa is actually fairtrade. But I struggled with the idea of pulling out of tots instantly – I hope that my inclusion in the ranking gives continual exposure to home education among the more mainstream mummy blogs. That’s important to me – but so is my attitude to boycotting Nestle, and promoting mindful consumerism.

In the end, I didn’t have to make a difficult decision – as soon as the tots organisers joined the discussion they pulled the badge, and what’s more, matched the original donation out of their own pocket. You can’t act fairer or quicker than that, and I was impressed by their responsiveness to their community.

But, it left me thinking. So many companies are now giving to charity/sponsoring events/donating stuff. Is this all just cheap PR for them? Are we being suckers? I’ve clicked on many a link to send a tweet, like a fb page because 10p or 50p or whatever gets donated to charity – I think the latest is Dettol, who are donating 20p to Save the Children for every like on their fb page. And in this particular buzz Nestle got talked about for free, as they didn’t even end up having to give out the donation. Is there no such thing as bad publicity, or did they lose out by it?

I wouldn’t go to a Nestle event, though I know various bloggers have. Ppl were wondering what the difference is – I mean, we still talk to the bloggers who attended after all. But in that instance they weren’t representing us, and we don’t promote them – whereas there’s a prominent tots badge in my sidebar, and I didn’t want to be promoting Nestle even secondhand.

And what about the bloggers who have been sponsored/supported by Nestle to run the marathon? Money is money when it arrives at the charity – but who is benefiting from the publicity? I have every admiration for Emma and Mirka who are putting themselves through a hard painful time of it. (And yes, I’m aware that I’ve just linked to two pages that mention Nestle, but it’s a part of the overall discussion!) ETA Oops, I missed off Mami from Mummy’s Busy World. So sorry! Does my admiration take a knock when I (belatedly) discover that Nestle is behind the campaign? It does, a little. But if they hadn’t taken that support, would any charity be getting anything? It’s very hard to get a place on the marathon at all, let alone the training and preparation you need to go through to do it – is it worth a little publicity for Nestle for that?

Perhaps it is if it launches a discussion around what is charity and what isn’t, if it causes more ppl to be aware of what is going on around us, if it opens ppl’s eyes to the seedier side of PR and marketing. I’d love to hear your thoughts on it all. Would you run a marathon for Nestle?


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16 responses to “Charitable thoughts.”

  1. It’s a really interesting debate.
    First, from my perspective, I think it’s perfectly valid to criticise a company (or a forum, or an online community leader) but I’d hate to see individuals being targeted for decisions they’ve made personally. There are an awful lot of people in this country who eat Kit-Kats or shop at the body shop, or use L’Oreal hair products, or a million other things, and I respect anyone’s choice to boycott or not to boycott, as they see fit.
    Second, I think what’s important, though, is ensure that our choices are informed – and that means having constructive conversations and listening as much as we talk. There’s little to be gained from automatically walking away when there’s a chance to help people be more informed instead.
    Again, I’d just apologise to anyone who felt we made a poor choice accepting a donation from Nestle, but I’m happy people felt able to talk to us about it, and hopefully the net result is that people will be able to make those informed choices, whatever they happen to be.

    1. @Sally I think you were responsive, admitted to what some ppl considered a mistake (and it has to be remembered, probably many ppl don’t!) and dealt with it rapidly. Can’t ask more than that.
      Thanks for stopping by to comment. I really hope that this does kick off a constructive discussion.

  2. Yes, I think we are all suckers. We’re taking things to publicise something – and that is how the world works now. I’m not sure I like it and I wouldn’t compromise my morals for it, but then if I win, my kids win, a company (who provide jobs) wins and no one is harmed, I’m okay with that. After all, I run a business, one which wouldn’t have got off the ground without the support of friends prepared to advertise me.
    As for Nestle (and I’m not remotely prepared to get into a conversation about it really) – I don’t boycott them. It is partly laziness, partly because it appears to be making no bloody difference (in fact, I wonder if it makes them more dogged) and partly because they provide a lot of jobs here locally. I have major issues because of that as local jobs and the impact of that factory closing, are things I feel equally strongly about.
    But I wouldn’t accept a direct donation from them, and while I might not have left the tots100 for the same reason you might not have, it would have sit badly with me because I abhor their principles and I equally dislike shady PR that skirts around a brand.
    Were it possible, I think even less well of Nestle for having tried this on and snort at ‘purelife’ – as if I’m dumb enough to think “they say it is pure, so I believe they are good now”.

    1. @Merry it’s just all so very complicated isn’t it? You can’t unpick it easily, though I guess we have to go on trying. Thanks for thoughtful comment.

  3. My overall problem is where to stop. Working conditions and suicides at the foxconn factories in china where the iPhones are made are often all over the tech press but how many people jumped on the marathon runners and tots100 last night via their mac or an iPhone? Does that make them hypocrites that they’re unhappy with nestle but happy with apple and their subcontractors?
    I’m not suggesting it does but it’s part of what makes me uneasy with the whole furore.

    1. I obviously don’t read that bit of the tech press, Alex, that’s the first I’ve heard of that 🙁 It is incredibly hard to know where to draw the line, and there can be times when I personally feel utterly overwhelmed with it all. But you do have to keep going, and all you can do is make the decision at the time, with the information you have, that is right for you.
      That sounds terribly self-righteous I suspect, which isn’t my intention at all. Sorry.

  4. Interesting post Jax.
    I worked in charity fundraising for 8 years, including at overseas aid organisations for whom there was a very strong and clear ethical policy that covered who they would and wouldn’t accept corporate income from as well as where their investment portfolio was placed.
    Most charities will have such a policy, because one corp is unpalatable to one part of the sector it doesn’t mean it will be for all of the sector.
    EG Nestle might not be acceptable for a children’s or overseas aid charity but a cancer charity might have no issue with them.
    In terms of corporate charitable support, I think there are a range of reasons why corporates align themselves with charities, from cynical to wholly alturistic. Few of these relationships are straight forward donations anymore, they are commercial relationships based on each party benefiting.
    In terms of cause related marketing (on packet donations / click to give campaigns etc) the benefit felt by the charity is the raising of awareness and positioning of their cause in-front of a new audience.
    This isn’t just about raising awareness but the hope that that awareness will translate into action or donations one day.
    I like your phrase “mindful consumerism” we should apply this to our written endorsements and charitable support as much as our commercial spend.
    I think we are only “suckers” if we don’t question 😉

  5. It doesn’t sound self righteous at all, it just highlights my point really. With a bit of digging we could all end up sitting in shacks in the woods because we could find fault with pretty much every major company.
    Some Apple/Foxconn stories:
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/10/foxconn_abuse_report/
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/27/chinese_workers_sickened/
    They also make Wii’s for Nintendo and computers for Dell, as well as generic motherboards etc.

    1. @Alex or in campervans on organic farms? 😉 Perhaps if we know that there are faults it is our job as consumers to do something about it – it’s how we achieve that that I’m struggling with.
      Oh and thanks for the Apple links, will read and digest at some stage soon.

  6. I do boycott Nestle, at least partly (breakfast cereals for sure, other things more intermittently) but strangely only started to do so after the palm oil/rainforest issue became a second reason to do so as well as the babymilk. I think these issues are overwhelming, though, and we can’t do everything, and I feel overwhelmed enough with everyday life as it is without adding extra burdens to myself. So I really don’t want my consciousness raised about anything else!

    1. @Joanna I have every sympathy. At times I just want to sit in a corner and wibble gently. One step at a time, one ignorant, unpleasant company at a time…

  7. How many people do you think truly avoid all Nestle products? Very few of the total world population have probably managed this, and I’m sure very few people outside the ‘mommy/mummy Internet sphere’ even know about the boycott. Let’s face it–if you all ask your friends who don’t have children about this, many won’t have a clue.
    I think the problem with individual people boycotting is it doesn’t really send Nestle a clear message. I doubt they know the difference between those that are boycotting and those that just aren’t customers yet.
    A better way to make any major corporation change their policy is to address them heads on, write to them and tell them what you are doing, try and get articles/blogs/comments published to reach more people. Have you written to your local supermarkets to ask them not to stock Nestle products, and explain to them why, as just an example, you buy Tesco’s cereal over Nestle? And of course cc Nestle with your letters.
    I think being conscientious is one thing and gives a person ‘personal satisfaction’, but pro-active campaigners will achieve more and send a clear message to the powers that be. If they received 10,000 copies of letters sent to local supermarkets it would send a much clearer message that people really aren’t happy with them.
    No–I do not boycott Nestle and yes I used formula for my children. And yes–we all know breast is best, but I can see in 3rd world countries riddled with so many illnesses and babies who’s mothers have died in childbirth or are ill with things like HIV why there is a need for a substitute like formula. And that’s something the boycott does not address: what have the boycotter’s done to improve the water conditions in the 3rd world? Has anyone started a separate campaign to install clean water systems as a direct campaign in response to the Nestle boycott?
    Action will do so much more for those mothers who’s babies need food, than by anyone’s anonymous boycotting.

    1. @Elizabeth While I agree with you on a lot of points, I think that a campaign for clean water as a response to Nestle’s actions would be facilitating them, and not one I could go with. A campaign for clean water generally, yes. And there is a need for a substitute such as formula, but it shouldn’t be the first line of defence anywhere really. Though I do not and will not judge anyone choosing to use it. I reserve judgement for companies tricking ppl into it!
      Think the letter writing is a good idea, and keep wondering about shareholder activism too.

    2. There are many, many clean water campaigns, but none of them have the money behind them Nestlé can command. Nor Coke, who also exploit poor water quality in developing nations, as well as their exciting anti-union stance.

  8. Michelle Twin Mum avatar
    Michelle Twin Mum

    It is all a minefield, I never know who is ethical/ reponsible or not but once something is discovered I then have a responsibility to act on it. Thanks Jax for a great post.
    Mich x

  9. I find myself more and more inclined to boycott everything. I do write and explain though. I’ve been doing the Nestlé boycott for decades, because my mother did it too – and because it’s so easy to find out which products to boycott, to be fair. And Coke/Coca Cola. And we *almost* successfully boycott Mars/Cadbury etc. And I don’t buy new IT stuff if I can help it because of the rape war, so that ties into boycotting new factory products anyway. We don’t boycott Tesco but the more they open shops near us the less we shop there. And I don’t think I or my sisters have bought from GAP for years. I’ve written to Lego repeatedly about their horrible sexist new Club magazines etc, and I’m really upset by their response, but I will probably continue to buy Lego second-hand, since it’s not the product I object to, just giving my money in support of a company that behaves that badly. I like to give my money to companies I *like*. Family- or cooperatively-run companies with at least one small moral or a mini ethic.

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