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	<title>Comments on: Broad and balanced v intrinsic motivation.</title>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suppose the real question here is why does autonomous learning scare ppl so badly that they deny its existence&quot;

That&#039;s the ticket, I think. One where people don&#039;t see the forest for the trees. Despite humans having flourished for thousands of years in a wide variety of social makeup, many people believe that humans need to be heavily monitored and controlled - that civilization will disintegrate without it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suppose the real question here is why does autonomous learning scare ppl so badly that they deny its existence&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the ticket, I think. One where people don&#8217;t see the forest for the trees. Despite humans having flourished for thousands of years in a wide variety of social makeup, many people believe that humans need to be heavily monitored and controlled &#8211; that civilization will disintegrate without it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometimes get towards the end of the day and tell the children I have no more answers left - they have used them all up. When I just can&#039;t face having to think about another answer to another question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes get towards the end of the day and tell the children I have no more answers left &#8211; they have used them all up. When I just can&#8217;t face having to think about another answer to another question.</p>
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		<title>By: mamacrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>mamacrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>being a librarian, I&#039;ve been banging on about life long learning and learning lifestyle for years (and boring people riged I dare say) I can&#039;t UNDERSTAND how people rigidly define &#039;learning&#039; as &#039;something that happens from 5 to 21 in a school/college/uni&#039;
say what?!

Across the top of our white board in the kitchen I always write &#039;to breath is to live, to live is to learn&#039;
Not sure if I made it up or read it somewhere, but it just occured to me one day and seems to say what I mean!

Oh and Mieke, I know what you mean re &#039;no more questions&#039; I&#039;ve been known to complain about the Spanish Inquisition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>being a librarian, I&#8217;ve been banging on about life long learning and learning lifestyle for years (and boring people riged I dare say) I can&#8217;t UNDERSTAND how people rigidly define &#8216;learning&#8217; as &#8216;something that happens from 5 to 21 in a school/college/uni&#8217;<br />
say what?!</p>
<p>Across the top of our white board in the kitchen I always write &#8216;to breath is to live, to live is to learn&#8217;<br />
Not sure if I made it up or read it somewhere, but it just occured to me one day and seems to say what I mean!</p>
<p>Oh and Mieke, I know what you mean re &#8216;no more questions&#8217; I&#8217;ve been known to complain about the Spanish Inquisition!</p>
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		<title>By: Maire Stafford</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2009/06/27/broad-and-balanced-v-intrinsic-motivation/comment-page-1/#comment-250146</link>
		<dc:creator>Maire Stafford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this Jax, a very good explanation.  I too don&#039;t understand why people can&#039;t see it, the first time I saw the term it clicked with me.  Perhaps people see life long learning as something exhausting because they automatically think more school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Jax, a very good explanation.  I too don&#8217;t understand why people can&#8217;t see it, the first time I saw the term it clicked with me.  Perhaps people see life long learning as something exhausting because they automatically think more school.</p>
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		<title>By: Mieke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Jax. 
Tell you what, there have been (and still are) many moments in our autonomous family life where I wished my children had a little less - intrinsic - pace, rigour and direction :)! You know, when one of them - or heaven helps you, more of them - have got themselves stuck into something and they just can&#039;t stop the &#039;learning process&#039;! When it&#039;s questions, discussions, explorings, practising and general information gathering non-stop! I have been known to introduce &quot;no more questions-times&quot;...
And then there are the times in between, when you can&#039;t see, and certainly not measure, any learning going on. Those are the times when everything gets processed. I have described this kind of learning as the &quot;high and low tide&quot; learning. It&#039;s all to do with natural balance, hasn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jax.<br />
Tell you what, there have been (and still are) many moments in our autonomous family life where I wished my children had a little less &#8211; intrinsic &#8211; pace, rigour and direction <img src='http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ! You know, when one of them &#8211; or heaven helps you, more of them &#8211; have got themselves stuck into something and they just can&#8217;t stop the &#8216;learning process&#8217;! When it&#8217;s questions, discussions, explorings, practising and general information gathering non-stop! I have been known to introduce &#8220;no more questions-times&#8221;&#8230;<br />
And then there are the times in between, when you can&#8217;t see, and certainly not measure, any learning going on. Those are the times when everything gets processed. I have described this kind of learning as the &#8220;high and low tide&#8221; learning. It&#8217;s all to do with natural balance, hasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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