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	<description>montessori at school, autonomous at home, all learning together</description>
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		<title>By: Merry</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2006/01/15/birthday-part-the-second/#comment-73319</link>
		<dc:creator>Merry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Birthday Big!</description>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2006/01/15/birthday-part-the-second/#comment-72985</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Encouraging news on the hearing test.</description>
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		<title>By: liberta</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2006/01/15/birthday-part-the-second/#comment-72983</link>
		<dc:creator>liberta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm...are you saying that you would prefer to get your &#163;gazillion bill for replacement as the first correspondance about the overdue book? 

Losing a couple of reminder letters from the process is not going to bring the cost of the fine down, as Allie and Kath say, there is lots of human checking to be done before they can be sure you are responsible for the missing book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm&#8230;are you saying that you would prefer to get your &pound;gazillion bill for replacement as the first correspondance about the overdue book? </p>
<p>Losing a couple of reminder letters from the process is not going to bring the cost of the fine down, as Allie and Kath say, there is lots of human checking to be done before they can be sure you are responsible for the missing book.</p>
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		<title>By: Jax</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2006/01/15/birthday-part-the-second/#comment-72982</link>
		<dc:creator>Jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, while on some level I would agree with you Allie, and I will either return the book or deal with it in whatever other way, there is also the fact that they do send endless reminders and with the children's books, and especially at the  moment, I've got into the habit of forgetting when the books are due and relying on the little reminder slips.  Books borrowed on children's tickets don't incur fines here.  I did think I *had* returned this book as I didn't get a reminder for it when I got reminders for a couple of the children's books that I knew we hadn't taken back.

I'm not making any sense here, what I'm trying to say is that they are setting up a bad system - teaching ppl to rely on reminders rather than developing personal responsibility. While I do fully accept that it's *is* my responsibility to return books I've borrowed, it's difficult to develop the right attitude to it given that we *do* get teh reminders.  Does that make any more sense?  Probably not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, while on some level I would agree with you Allie, and I will either return the book or deal with it in whatever other way, there is also the fact that they do send endless reminders and with the children&#8217;s books, and especially at the  moment, I&#8217;ve got into the habit of forgetting when the books are due and relying on the little reminder slips.  Books borrowed on children&#8217;s tickets don&#8217;t incur fines here.  I did think I *had* returned this book as I didn&#8217;t get a reminder for it when I got reminders for a couple of the children&#8217;s books that I knew we hadn&#8217;t taken back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not making any sense here, what I&#8217;m trying to say is that they are setting up a bad system - teaching ppl to rely on reminders rather than developing personal responsibility. While I do fully accept that it&#8217;s *is* my responsibility to return books I&#8217;ve borrowed, it&#8217;s difficult to develop the right attitude to it given that we *do* get teh reminders.  Does that make any more sense?  Probably not!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen b</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2006/01/15/birthday-part-the-second/#comment-72980</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheaper to buy a copy from Amazon and take it in LOL  Or Ebay as the copy probably wasn't 'as new'.  xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheaper to buy a copy from Amazon and take it in LOL  Or Ebay as the copy probably wasn&#8217;t &#8216;as new&#8217;.  xx</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2006/01/15/birthday-part-the-second/#comment-72979</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy birthday to Big for tomorrow!

Yes - you'll probably find that you're being charged a £5 admin fee.  When you think of this in terms of staff time (checking the shelves to make sure the book hasn't been returned - probably several times, costing replacement, and the processing of the replacement copy)I don't think that's bad really, is it?

Sorry but the librarian in me says it's up to the person who borrowed the book to renew/return it on time, without endless reminders.  After all, the books are there for everyone to share and while you've got it no-one else can have it...  Nag, nag, nag ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy birthday to Big for tomorrow!</p>
<p>Yes - you&#8217;ll probably find that you&#8217;re being charged a £5 admin fee.  When you think of this in terms of staff time (checking the shelves to make sure the book hasn&#8217;t been returned - probably several times, costing replacement, and the processing of the replacement copy)I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s bad really, is it?</p>
<p>Sorry but the librarian in me says it&#8217;s up to the person who borrowed the book to renew/return it on time, without endless reminders.  After all, the books are there for everyone to share and while you&#8217;ve got it no-one else can have it&#8230;  Nag, nag, nag <img src='http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: chris F</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2006/01/15/birthday-part-the-second/#comment-72978</link>
		<dc:creator>chris F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bit its tomorrow isn't it? - she says now all confused?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bit its tomorrow isn&#8217;t it? - she says now all confused?</p>
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		<title>By: chris F</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>happy birthday big!! from us and specially SB</description>
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		<title>By: Tech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well 19.95 is not sooo bad... my biggest fine was *whispers* £58!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well 19.95 is not sooo bad&#8230; my biggest fine was *whispers* £58!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jax</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2006/01/15/birthday-part-the-second/#comment-72973</link>
		<dc:creator>Jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, I would have thought the fine ought to cover most of those costs, that's separate to the book replacement and is £4+ as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, I would have thought the fine ought to cover most of those costs, that&#8217;s separate to the book replacement and is £4+ as well.</p>
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