Comments on: This here education stuff http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2005/07/08/this-here-education-stuff/ montessori at school, autonomous at home, all learning together Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:42:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Alison http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2005/07/08/this-here-education-stuff/#comment-16261 Alison Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:14:44 +0000 http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/?p=943#comment-16261 Elijah *loves* cleaning things. Putting some washing on is really easy too, and of course getting them to put away the dry clean clothes helps the process along nicely! Elijah *loves* cleaning things. Putting some washing on is really easy too, and of course getting them to put away the dry clean clothes helps the process along nicely!

]]> By: Nic http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2005/07/08/this-here-education-stuff/#comment-16223 Nic Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:06:25 +0000 http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/?p=943#comment-16223 I KWYM but also by virtue of the fact that some of my views are alternative and have been carefully thought out, researched and developed over time in some instances I do think my view is the right one - as such I would probably be guilty of presenting it to the children as such. I think as long as you acknowledge there are other views and teach tolerance and respect for them then you won't go far wrong. Many children of vegans end up eating meat and vice versa. I had an interesting conversation with someone at HESfes about religion and how that is one example of something you cannot help but struggle to present in a balanced way. I am clear about the fact that other people have different beliefs and ideas but as frequently my own dictate the way in which we live a level of indoctrination is inevitable. I had a long chat with D the other day about how it *is* OK for people to have different opinions and leave it at that - it was over something very trivial (we disagreed on what the lyrics were to a Tweenie song, we played it several times and still both thought we were right and the other was wrong) - but he was very upset that he could not manage to either agree with me or manage to convince me to agree with him. I think he did eventually get to grips with the idea that it is our different ideas and independant thoughts which make us individuals and therefore interesting but the initial concept was a tough one for him. I KWYM but also by virtue of the fact that some of my views are alternative and have been carefully thought out, researched and developed over time in some instances I do think my view is the right one - as such I would probably be guilty of presenting it to the children as such.

I think as long as you acknowledge there are other views and teach tolerance and respect for them then you won’t go far wrong. Many children of vegans end up eating meat and vice versa.

I had an interesting conversation with someone at HESfes about religion and how that is one example of something you cannot help but struggle to present in a balanced way. I am clear about the fact that other people have different beliefs and ideas but as frequently my own dictate the way in which we live a level of indoctrination is inevitable.

I had a long chat with D the other day about how it *is* OK for people to have different opinions and leave it at that - it was over something very trivial (we disagreed on what the lyrics were to a Tweenie song, we played it several times and still both thought we were right and the other was wrong) - but he was very upset that he could not manage to either agree with me or manage to convince me to agree with him. I think he did eventually get to grips with the idea that it is our different ideas and independant thoughts which make us individuals and therefore interesting but the initial concept was a tough one for him.

]]> By: jax http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2005/07/08/this-here-education-stuff/#comment-16134 jax Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:54:23 +0000 http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/?p=943#comment-16134 I suppose because my views are so alternative to the mainstream, and with her spending the vast majority of her time with me, I am concerned as to whether I am always presenting information in a balanced way. And how are you doing? :) I suppose because my views are so alternative to the mainstream, and with her spending the vast majority of her time with me, I am concerned as to whether I am always presenting information in a balanced way.

And how are you doing? :)

]]> By: Kath http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2005/07/08/this-here-education-stuff/#comment-16133 Kath Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:50:57 +0000 http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/?p=943#comment-16133 Sounds to me like you're discussing and offering different opinions, and encouraging Big to think for herself and not just take what she finds in books as "the truth". Most info books present one set of facts as final and correct, with no discussion, so are they all indoctrinating? Perhaps alot of people don't notice, or care? How can discussing other views be dangerous and a fine line between education and indoctrination? Well, unless you are ranting "do it this way or else" at her instead of asking and answering questions so she learns to think for herself. I suppose the world not being as black and white as some people would try and have it is quite a scary concept at such a young age though - aren't young children supposed to only be able to see things as right or wrong? Sounds to me like you’re discussing and offering different opinions, and encouraging Big to think for herself and not just take what she finds in books as “the truth”. Most info books present one set of facts as final and correct, with no discussion, so are they all indoctrinating? Perhaps alot of people don’t notice, or care? How can discussing other views be dangerous and a fine line between education and indoctrination? Well, unless you are ranting “do it this way or else” at her instead of asking and answering questions so she learns to think for herself. I suppose the world not being as black and white as some people would try and have it is quite a scary concept at such a young age though - aren’t young children supposed to only be able to see things as right or wrong?

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