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		<title>By: Merry</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>Merry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do actually make a reasonable effort though and in fact its part of my science project for the winter, to make us all a bit more aware. Like i say, i think doing the things made easy is a reasonable start; like Jax points out, the pros of one thing end up with a con somewhere, i would almost say that is inevitable really :~(

I often wonder, at the risk of starting something else contraversial, what the effect would be on the poorer people of some town somewhere in this country, if the Nestle factory decided to shut because of the effect of boycotting. I have this awful feeling that it might plunge more people under the danger poverty threshold than it would do damage to Nestle themselves. Not that i have anything to back that up with, but its one of those chicken/egg concepts that bothers me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do actually make a reasonable effort though and in fact its part of my science project for the winter, to make us all a bit more aware. Like i say, i think doing the things made easy is a reasonable start; like Jax points out, the pros of one thing end up with a con somewhere, i would almost say that is inevitable really :~(</p>
<p>I often wonder, at the risk of starting something else contraversial, what the effect would be on the poorer people of some town somewhere in this country, if the Nestle factory decided to shut because of the effect of boycotting. I have this awful feeling that it might plunge more people under the danger poverty threshold than it would do damage to Nestle themselves. Not that i have anything to back that up with, but its one of those chicken/egg concepts that bothers me.</p>
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		<title>By: jax</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that treehugger mums article is written by a wahm I know vaguely who sells learning resources (she is a trained teacher as well).  Might drop her a line about brand awareness type things...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that treehugger mums article is written by a wahm I know vaguely who sells learning resources (she is a trained teacher as well).  Might drop her a line about brand awareness type things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sal</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just have to note that Environment is a BIG part of our curriculum (if we have one), is one of the reasons I'd like to ed my kids myself, and is the way I try (tiny bit by tiny bit) to preserve a world for them to live in: without being poisoned daily, having to watch the whole equilibrium fall apart.  What we've managed to do to our environment in just the nearly 40 years of my life terrifies me!
No flaming intended to anyone.  We just all have our different focuses (or is that foci like croci and octopi?)
BW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just have to note that Environment is a BIG part of our curriculum (if we have one), is one of the reasons I&#8217;d like to ed my kids myself, and is the way I try (tiny bit by tiny bit) to preserve a world for them to live in: without being poisoned daily, having to watch the whole equilibrium fall apart.  What we&#8217;ve managed to do to our environment in just the nearly 40 years of my life terrifies me!<br />
No flaming intended to anyone.  We just all have our different focuses (or is that foci like croci and octopi?)<br />
BW</p>
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		<title>By: sal</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>determined to comment on all your posts it seems!  I know that "car's in the workshop" feeling.  Just discovered that getting the SORN in early for our other (on the way out) car means we can't drive it until the tax expires at end of month.  Got pulled over!
Cheers for the gloop link.  Wonder what goes into my Ecover liquid (from Lembas!)  I'll have to try to remember the chemical name for palm oil and check the ingredients list.
Oh dear to Treehugger Mums re supermarket learning!  We ought to educate them about what supermarkets are doing to organic farmers, the environment, etc!  Not very treehugging!  But, it's difficult to be aware of the impact we are having on our environment when we are now-a-days so divorced from producing, or even sourcing what we use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>determined to comment on all your posts it seems!  I know that &#8220;car&#8217;s in the workshop&#8221; feeling.  Just discovered that getting the SORN in early for our other (on the way out) car means we can&#8217;t drive it until the tax expires at end of month.  Got pulled over!<br />
Cheers for the gloop link.  Wonder what goes into my Ecover liquid (from Lembas!)  I&#8217;ll have to try to remember the chemical name for palm oil and check the ingredients list.<br />
Oh dear to Treehugger Mums re supermarket learning!  We ought to educate them about what supermarkets are doing to organic farmers, the environment, etc!  Not very treehugging!  But, it&#8217;s difficult to be aware of the impact we are having on our environment when we are now-a-days so divorced from producing, or even sourcing what we use.</p>
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		<title>By: jax</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oi you, I'll have you know that it took practically no time at all to make gloop - did it while making myself cup of tea and biscuit!  And who are you calling old?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi you, I&#8217;ll have you know that it took practically no time at all to make gloop - did it while making myself cup of tea and biscuit!  And who are you calling old?</p>
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		<title>By: Liberta</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link - I read the gloop recipe and hooted with laughter! Blue Peter for the olds; how to fill your time so you dont have any left to think about any real problems. 

I was going to say that Treehugger Mums had too much time on their hands, but after a quick review of their site, they seem to be quite sensible *most* of the time! But I would have to take issue at their "brand awareness" exersize in the &lt;a href="http://www.treehuggermums.co.uk/articles/parenting/article.php?article=79"&gt; learning in supermarket&lt;/a&gt; article. Shocking!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link - I read the gloop recipe and hooted with laughter! Blue Peter for the olds; how to fill your time so you dont have any left to think about any real problems. </p>
<p>I was going to say that Treehugger Mums had too much time on their hands, but after a quick review of their site, they seem to be quite sensible *most* of the time! But I would have to take issue at their &#8220;brand awareness&#8221; exersize in the <a href="http://www.treehuggermums.co.uk/articles/parenting/article.php?article=79"> learning in supermarket</a> article. Shocking!!</p>
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		<title>By: Merry</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Merry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giggle... well if its anymore than i'm managing, thats an awfully good reason to stay as a girl!!! ;~)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giggle&#8230; well if its anymore than i&#8217;m managing, thats an awfully good reason to stay as a girl!!! ;~)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But how much can a 'woman' deal with ......tee-hee ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But how much can a &#8216;woman&#8217; deal with &#8230;&#8230;tee-hee <img src='http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Merry</title>
		<link>http://liveotherwise.co.uk/makingitup/2004/09/24/so-am-i-saving-the-planet-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Merry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm fundamentally useless at issues, especially environmental ones. I'll do what is made easy for me; recycling box (which is full, every week and collected for us), glass (goes to sainsburys carpark once a fortnight or so), cloth nappies (when i have a downstairs loo and lets be honest, did i contribute to water and fuel issues while i saved on landfill?!), composting (when i remember and its not raining), putting old clothes in a bag for disadvantaged kids and letting someone collect them off my doorstep. That sort of thing. I even remember to turn off lights and so on - but i know fundamentally there are lots of things in my house that are bad too and tbh, i don't really care! Not because i don't see the point but because there is only so much i can take on at once and perpetually fighting with Max to buy Ecover not Fairy just means i'll end up doing the shopping, or having lots of fights and maybe i'd make gloop once but never again, so what is the point of getting my knickers in a twist about it, if you see what i mean.

The day i have everything in my house working like clockwork, i'll turn my attention to everything else and start pulling my greater weight...

To quote my favourite musical...

"But first tell me who'd be delighted
If I said I'd take on the world's greatest problems
From war to pollution, no hope of solution
Even if I lived for one hundred years"

I know, i'm a sap. But a girl can only deal with so much at once!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fundamentally useless at issues, especially environmental ones. I&#8217;ll do what is made easy for me; recycling box (which is full, every week and collected for us), glass (goes to sainsburys carpark once a fortnight or so), cloth nappies (when i have a downstairs loo and lets be honest, did i contribute to water and fuel issues while i saved on landfill?!), composting (when i remember and its not raining), putting old clothes in a bag for disadvantaged kids and letting someone collect them off my doorstep. That sort of thing. I even remember to turn off lights and so on - but i know fundamentally there are lots of things in my house that are bad too and tbh, i don&#8217;t really care! Not because i don&#8217;t see the point but because there is only so much i can take on at once and perpetually fighting with Max to buy Ecover not Fairy just means i&#8217;ll end up doing the shopping, or having lots of fights and maybe i&#8217;d make gloop once but never again, so what is the point of getting my knickers in a twist about it, if you see what i mean.</p>
<p>The day i have everything in my house working like clockwork, i&#8217;ll turn my attention to everything else and start pulling my greater weight&#8230;</p>
<p>To quote my favourite musical&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;But first tell me who&#8217;d be delighted<br />
If I said I&#8217;d take on the world&#8217;s greatest problems<br />
From war to pollution, no hope of solution<br />
Even if I lived for one hundred years&#8221;</p>
<p>I know, i&#8217;m a sap. But a girl can only deal with so much at once!</p>
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